Social Collapse Best Practices
Speaker: Dmitry Orlov
Sponsored by: The Long Now Foundation
Presented: February 13, 2009
Dmitry Orlov is possibly the worst presenter I have ever heard. He had no presentation or visuals, but just read in a monotone directly from his notes and only glanced up occasionally. He would sometimes take a drink of water in an awkward way - pause, unscrew cap, sip, screw back on cap, continue.
However, the presentation was actually interesting and bitingly sarcastic. It was also funny in an awkward way; often two or three people in the audience would laugh conspicuously, not really sure if he was joking or not. The really funny part was - he wasn't joking.
His talk was on the economic and social collapse of the Soviet Union and how it might be different or similar in the US.
He didn't recommend building a bomb shelter and stocking it with 2-years of dehydrated food. He also didn't recommend buying an isolated cabin in the mountains. He did recommend stockpiling useful things, or items that could be traded - like vodka. He also said that the most important thing to do was to be mentally prepared for the hardships to come.
Overview
- Cause of collapse: shortage of crude oil, trade deficit, military budget, foreign debt
- US on same trajectory as USSR
- He grew up in Russia, moved to US when 12. Went back several times
- Soviet: lost jobs, savings, hyper-inflation, shortages, increase in crime
- Soviet economy a failure, but produced a system that was resistant to crash
- Oil imports are the Achilles heel of US economy
- Funny: Information spreads at the speed of light but ignorance spreads instantly thru the universe
- Predictions are always off by half a decade. There is nothing more useless than predictions once they come true
- When collapse happens, the old ways don't work but new ones will
- Examples: JIT vs. inventory on hand, efficient staffing vs. large bureaucracy
- US is like a ship on rocks with water rising and the captain is shouting 'full ahead'
- Government should focus on: Food, shelter, transportation, security, then move to de-industrialized economy
- Unsustainable: 10 calories of fossil fuels to produce 1 calorie of food
Russia example
- Kitchen gardens never sufficient but enormously helpful
- Walking distance of grocery
- Housing in crowded apartment but no foreclosures or evictions
- Family and friends nearby
- Utilities continued
- Lots of crime, but could hire policeman or soldier for protection
US Can Prepare
- 1000 sq ft for gardens near water
- Convert empty parking lots to gardens
- Suburban dwellings not viable
- Mass migration to cities
- Convert offices to dormitories
- 4 year colleges dubious, turn into community centers
- Cargo bikes and sailboats
- Ban sale of new cars: We will run out of cars just as we run out of gas
- Pack 12 people into pickup bed
- Make it illegal not to pick up hitchhikers
- Use empty train cars for transportation
- Breed donkeys: less skittish than horses and eat almost anything
- Won't have to worry about legal issues: donkey in garage, windmill,
- Convert lawn to garden
- Good to have well-armed, semi-psychotic friends
- Develop community security
Peak Oil
- 2005-2008 oil production flat, oil now flat at $40
- Oil could become $400 to $4000 with hyper-inflation
- Domestic oil in decline
What to Do
- Accept the failure of the system now and adapt accordingly.
- Not helpful: Buy gold, buy cabin in mountains, build bunker
- For shelter: become property caretaker or squatter
- Job: be ready to be fired, get burn rate to zero - scale down needs
- Money: buy and stockpile useful stuff
Created on February 21, 2009 12:04:27
by
Max Dunn
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