Social Collapse Best Practices

Speaker: Dmitry Orlov

Sponsored by: The Long Now Foundation

Presented: February 13, 2009

Dmitry Orlov is possibly the worst presenter I have ever heard. He had no presentation or visuals, but just read in a monotone directly from his notes and only glanced up occasionally. He would sometimes take a drink of water in an awkward way - pause, unscrew cap, sip, screw back on cap, continue.

However, the presentation was actually interesting and bitingly sarcastic. It was also funny in an awkward way; often two or three people in the audience would laugh conspicuously, not really sure if he was joking or not. The really funny part was - he wasn't joking.

His talk was on the economic and social collapse of the Soviet Union and how it might be different or similar in the US.

He didn't recommend building a bomb shelter and stocking it with 2-years of dehydrated food. He also didn't recommend buying an isolated cabin in the mountains. He did recommend stockpiling useful things, or items that could be traded - like vodka. He also said that the most important thing to do was to be mentally prepared for the hardships to come.

Overview

  • Cause of collapse: shortage of crude oil, trade deficit,  military budget, foreign debt
  • US on same trajectory as USSR
  • He grew up in Russia, moved to US when 12. Went back several times
  • Soviet: lost jobs, savings, hyper-inflation, shortages, increase in crime
  • Soviet economy a failure, but produced a system that was resistant to crash
  • Oil imports are the Achilles heel of US economy
  • Funny: Information spreads at the speed of light but ignorance spreads instantly thru the universe
  • Predictions are always off by half a decade. There is nothing more useless than predictions once they come true
  • When collapse happens, the old ways don't work but new ones will
  • Examples: JIT vs. inventory on hand, efficient staffing vs. large bureaucracy
  • US is like a ship on rocks with water rising and the captain is shouting 'full ahead'
  • Government should focus on: Food, shelter, transportation, security, then move to de-industrialized economy
  • Unsustainable: 10 calories of fossil fuels to produce 1 calorie of food

Russia example

  • Kitchen gardens never sufficient but enormously helpful
  • Walking distance of grocery
  • Housing in crowded apartment but no foreclosures or evictions
  • Family and friends nearby
  • Utilities continued
  • Lots of crime, but could hire policeman or soldier for protection


US Can Prepare

  • 1000 sq ft for gardens near water
  • Convert empty parking lots to gardens
  • Suburban dwellings not viable
  • Mass migration to cities
  • Convert offices to dormitories
  • 4 year colleges dubious, turn into community centers
  • Cargo bikes and sailboats
  • Ban sale of new cars: We will run out of cars just as we run out of gas
  • Pack 12 people into pickup bed
  • Make it illegal not to pick up hitchhikers
  • Use empty train cars for transportation
  • Breed donkeys: less skittish than horses and eat almost anything
  • Won't have to worry about legal issues: donkey in garage, windmill,
  • Convert lawn to garden
  • Good to have well-armed, semi-psychotic friends
  • Develop community security

Peak Oil

  • 2005-2008 oil production flat, oil now flat at $40
  • Oil could become $400 to $4000 with hyper-inflation
  • Domestic oil in decline

What to Do

  • Accept the failure of the system now and adapt accordingly.
  • Not helpful: Buy gold, buy cabin in mountains, build bunker
  • For shelter: become property caretaker or squatter
  • Job: be ready to be fired, get burn rate to zero - scale down needs
  • Money: buy and stockpile useful stuff